GLADIATOR! But what does HHFP have to say about it?

So its here is it? A Jeep Wrangler truck. So what does this guy that writes words on a clackity keyboard onto the internets have to say about that?

Not much really. Its a Jeep and its a Truck so it does things those thing do.

1. Be a Jeep

This includes the following:

  • Be hot as in the marketplace as the fire of a thousand suns
  • Be able to easily double its price in the online configuratator machine.
  • Be able to double THAT price in the aftermarket.
  • Hold its value stupid well in spite of it still being made by the same people that make the Journey.
  • Be appealing to people who want to be outdoorsy and adventurous, as well as people who just play that person on tv instagram.

2. Be a truck

Examples include:

  • Be a useful daily driver for a small family
  • Be “best in class*” in as many niche categories as you can think up.
  • Have an extremely high profit margin
  • Have ardent haters based solely along brand lines.
  • Always have something in tow headed to a muddy jobsite (according to the internet)
  • Probably have a bed or something.

Does the Gladiator be a Jeep and be a Truck? It do.

Let me get this out of the way: Its what people want and it will sell and that’s okay with me.

It will also be exactly what people who want a wrangler truck will get, be it a fashion statement or a blank canvas.

What isn’t it? All that great at being a Wrangler out of the factory.

The base and overland models are good trucks, but their basic design limits make them poor off roaders.


Low frames, CRAZY long wheel base = tricky trucks to wheel.

Quick comparison time:

Overland trim 4x4 breakover angle 18.4 degrees

Sprinter 4x4 long wheel base 17

Tacoma 4x2 quad cab 6 foot bed 20

F150 supercrew 4x4 6.5 foot bed 19.7

Subaru outback 20

Colorado 4 door 4x2 6 foot bed 18.6

Have I made it clear yet what 18.4 degrees of breakover angle is yet? Hint: not enough for a Wrangler.


I know I harp on that a little but let’s be honest, it’s a big deal on a big truck meant for off roading and yes the Rubicon on its 33 inch tires is better...but its still only 20.3, or basically a subaru outback. ON 33's!

Can this be solved with the inevitable 2 inch lift and 37 inch tires? Yes, but now you’ve just made a big truck huge.


I don’t want to sound like I hate it, I think it’s rad they brought it out and made it a real truck. I’m a little sad inside that it’s only going to crowd up the backcountry a little more.

On the other side of the asterix there are some important qualifications.


Yes, it has best in class* towing and payload of 7,650 and 1600 lbs respectively, but if you look at the chart, most configurations are WAY off those numbers to the point of them almost being statistical outliers in the data. The mean payload is 1245, which is much closers to what most people will actually get and over 60% of the configurations are 1200 lbs payload or lower.


For towing it’s a little better with the mean max towing with the max trailer package (the only way to be fair) being around 6600 lbs.

Some numbers to consider: The sport truck without the max trailer package has the second WORST in class payload. (Worst is the Frontier PRO 4X auto at 1020). Also the Rubicon isn’t much of a heavy lifter at 1160 - 1200 lbs but a big improvement over its 4 door suv sibling at a laughable 892 lbs. (but hey, you can remove the doors to get a few pounds back, right?)


How does that compare with the competition? (mean numbers across all 4x4 4 door trim levels)

Gladiator 4 door 4x4

Payload 1245

Towing 6600

Tacoma 4 door 4x4 configurations

Payload 1160

Towing 6400

Frontier 4 door 4x4

Payload 1203

Towing 6330

Ranger 4 door 4x4

Payload 1560

Towing 7500

Chevy 4 door 4x4

Payload 1407

Towing 6970

As you can see, it’s certainly in the hunt, but hardly the standout. The Colorado/Canyon and the Ranger being your goto’s for both payload and towing for most if not all but a single model trims.


So what do I really think about them?

“Boy that detachable bluetooth speaker sure is neat, what was it you were playing around 1230 a.m. around your campfire? it sounded like Taylor Swift but I can’t say for certain. Oh and sorry I woke you at 6 AM this morning, I always try and get off a few practice rounds in the early dawn light, the extra loud noises of .357 mag bullets against cans fulls of rocks really help me focus for the day. Alright, enjoy your morning!”

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