I was relatively excited to see what these guys were doing with this new show, but after watching 1.5 of them, I’m a bit meh about it.

I get it -they found people that already had cars completed, so there really isn’t a “build” portion of the video. They try, like when people are tweaking boost / timing / NOS, or in the second one where the guy has a vibration in his tranny and needs to swap in a new one.

But the whole concept is just a bit too contrived - and simplistic.

In the first video, two of the three “sleepers” are built by shops. Shops that have all kinds of ridiculous hardware they COULD have entered. They just “picked” a “sleeper” (whatever that actually means, here).

[SPOILER] And it was gratifying that the guy who won the first one had a completely home-built (on less than a shoestring, but the looks of it) car.

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Especially the guy who had a 1000 hp Honda Odyssey. Which he ran instead of any of the other dozens of crazy fast cars he owns.

I mean, I’d have loved to see an old 930 turbo beat some new supercar.

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Is a 911 - even an old one - less of a sleeper than a 1000hp Honda Odyssey? Sure. But there’s a big catch.

Here’s the deal.

These guys posed the question of “what’s the most underrated car of the last 20 years?” in one of those sponsored posts. I have an E36 M3, and think it’s up there.

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Highly underrated, I mean. Here is my reply - if you want to read the whole discussion, or this is the gist of it:

While it could have been better, I struggle to see how that detracts from what it is. It’s capable, reliable, and is a favorite track machine for its durability and driving qualities.

And especially with the 4 door / 5 speed version, it’s a great sleeper.

One of the witty retorts was:

And is smoked every time, rather summarily, by garden variety v6 Camries!

Solid choice indeed!

OK.

I get it.

It’s not that fast by today’s standard.

(Honor insists I point out that this isn’t actually true - a stock E36 M3 is faster than any stock V6 Camry, and once you start modifying, the gap widens.)

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But it’s true - it’s not terribly fast by today’s standard, and 240 hp is pretty ho-hum these days.

But take it to an actual race track, and it wouldn’t even be close.

So maybe I was expecting too much. But I’d much rather see an actual race than these contrived 1/4 mile races. If you can make it go AND turn and stop, not I’m interested.

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Anyway, here are some more of these old vs new, stock for stock videos.

Camry beating a Ferrari 308.

And that 911 turbo up there. ALSO probably be slower than a Camry.

How about this Edmunds video of a Camry and a ‘66 Vette?

So how about we try this whole old vs new, built not bought concept again, but we use an actual racetrack instead of a stupid drag strip?