And insurance is a scam. My insurance is offering us 10k for our 2012 civic exl, whatever I am ready to move on and tomorrow we are going to look at a 2010 Acura TSX selling for 12500 with 77k miles.

I convinced my girl at looking at the wagon; but she does not want a car payment and being that we just moved we are not going to dip into our savings too much.