(A minor rant) When I come to a red light, I stop with the nose of my car close to the stop bar. That’s why the stop bar exist: to tell you where to stop. There seems to be an increasing number of people in my city who believe that leaving a full car length between their nose and the stop bar is somehow the right thing, although they often have a change of heart and creep forward a few feet at a time over and over again. .Are they just trying to get a running start for hitting any pedestrians that might still be in the crosswalk when the light changes? Maybe one of you can explain this aberration to me.